Leadership Discoveries #23: The Leader as an Emotional Capitalist with John Broderick, RocheMartin
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You know it best: being an executive leader can be tough. How do you stay inspired and keep moving the business forward with so much going on? Meet Dr. Shirley Kavanagh, Executive Advisor and scholar/practitioner. In each episode, hear Shirley in conversation with top global leaders and experts on leading with integrity, overcoming adversity, and developing other leaders. Presented by Shirley Kavanagh each episode, hear Shirley in conversation with top global leaders and experts on leading with integrity, overcoming adversity, and developing other leaders. Leadership Discoveries is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and your favourite podcast platform.
Episode #23
In this episode of Leadership Discoveries, Shirley is joined by John Broderick, MSc, a Senior Psychologist with considerable experience in assessment, training, and coaching in emotional intelligence assessment, leadership development, and psychometrics. He is a qualified trainer in a range of psychometric tools, the Emotional Capital Report (ECR) and ECR 360, the MMPI-2, and NEO Personality Inventory. He is a Founding Director of RocheMartin Ltd, a leadership development company. Hear how women & men often differ when it comes to emotional intelligence (EQ), how emotional intelligence can be developed, the best way to measure your EQ, and how we should be thinking about AI from a leadership standpoint.
This episode explores what emotional intelligence can add for leaders. Here's a small sample of what you will hear in this episode:
Can EQ be developed? The personality vss. emotional intelligence debate unpacked
AI vs. emotional intelligence: what machine can and cannot do
Why most 360s end of in a drawer and how to make them genuinely transformative
The problem with emotional intelligence self assessment
EQ as a laser beam: why emotional skills are trainable while personality traits remain stable
Connect with John at RocheMartin.com and on LinkedIn
Check out the episode and show notes below.
Show Notes
The Leader as an Emotional Capitalist with John Broderick, RocheMartin
[0:27] Welcome back to Leadership Discoveries!
[0:48] Introducing John Broderick: senior psychologist, Founding Director of RocheMartin, and EQ expert
[1:18] The origins of RocheMartin: a psychology conference, Dr. Martyn Newman, and the values behind the name
[3:30] Daniel Goleman's 1995 breakthrough and the birth of the Emotional Capital model
[6:40] Are women more emotionally intelligent than men? What the research actually shows
[7:44] Does emotional intelligence increase with age? Scoring patterns across generations
[8:41] Can EQ be developed? The personality vs. emotional intelligence debate unpacked
[11:00] EQ as a laser beam: why emotional skills are trainable while personality traits remain stable
[13:54] What does an emotionally intelligent leader look like in a high-pressure, results-driven environment?
[15:00] From demanding to transformative: the shift that defines great leadership
[17:50] "How do you know you're emotionally intelligent?" and the problem with self-assessment
[18:14] Psychometric assessment and 360-degree feedback: measuring EQ with rigour and validity
[21:25] Why most 360s end up in a drawer and how to make them genuinely transformative
[24:37] Narcissism, over-inflation, and the inner critic: two sides of self-awareness distortion
[30:14] EQ is not soft and fluffy. empathy is one of the hardest and most powerful leadership skills
[32:59] Leaders as builders of other leaders: the responsibility and the legacy
[33:25] "Before you become a leader it's about you. After, it's about growing other people."
[34:28] AI vs. emotional intelligence: what machines can and cannot do
[36:00] The human advantage: embodied intelligence, wisdom, and genuine emotional connection
[39:27] Why emotional intelligence is not a passing fad because its roots in neuroscience ensure its staying power
[41:17] Connect with Shirley at ShirleyKavanagh.com and on LinkedIn, and John at RocheMartin.com and on LinkedIn